Previously, I believed that the parents of 1050811Joan ___ were 2101622Thomas de Dene and 2101623Martha de Shelving. However, researcher Pete Andrews called my attention to 2101622Thomas' inquisitions post mortem, which I had overlooked. 2101622Thomas' two IPM's strongly suggest that he is not 1050811Joan's father (since the IPM explicitly notes 2101622Thomas' daughter Joan as deceased in early childhood, among other incongruences). Nevertheless, because 1050811Joan certainly seems to be related to 2101622Thomas in some manner, and because my older work could prove useful for future research, I've isolated the profile pages that I'd written for 1050811Joan's formerly proposed ancestors into a separate section of my website, starting from the old version of Joan's page onward. You can see a list of those ancestors or a family tree of them. |
Snapshot: | lived in 12th-century England |
Parents: | Her father's identity is uncertain; see note below. Her mother's identity is unknown. |
Born: | unknown |
Died: | by 8 August 1204 location unknown |
Buried: | unknown |
Who is Robert Halstead writes in the 1685 book Succinct Genealogies of the Noble and Ancient Houses of Alone or de Alneto, Broc of Stephale [...] on page 27:
Other than the opening description ("Charta Willielmi de Goram"), Halstead doesn't otherwise explain the origin of the charter, nor have I been able to independently confirm that any such charter truly existed. Furthermore, Halstead's other content is quite fanciful (For example, on page 19 he describes 269007694Ranulf de Broc as "a Valiant, a Faithful, and a Renowned Knight" whose alliance "of his Children contracted with Great Men, and Famous Houses [...]"). Therefore, Halstead's work seems to be of questionable authenticity, and I have decided not to rely on it as evidence, at least for now. |
She must have died by 8 August 1204, when 134503846Stephen de Thurnham (
1: Curia Regis Rolls of the Reign of Henry III (1938; Kraus reprint, 1971), page 135. This is volume 8 of the Curia Regis series, although the title page doesn't specify so. You can see a copy of select pages here or a (somewhat low-quality) machine translation to English. The most pertinent phrases are "Ranulfi del Broc patris predictarum Edeline et Sibille" and "Damete de Gorum matris ipsarum Edeline et Sibille."
2: Thomas Duffus Hardy, ed., Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum in Turri Londinensi, Volume I (1833), page 4, right column, 2