Previously, I believed that the parents of 1050811Joan ___ were 2101622Thomas de Dene and 2101623Martha de Shelving. However, researcher Pete Andrews called my attention to 2101622Thomas' inquisitions post mortem, which I had overlooked. 2101622Thomas' two IPM's strongly suggest that he is not 1050811Joan's father (since the IPM explicitly notes 2101622Thomas' daughter Joan as deceased in early childhood, among other incongruences). Nevertheless, because 1050811Joan certainly seems to be related to 2101622Thomas in some manner, and because my older work could prove useful for future research, I've isolated the profile pages that I'd written for 1050811Joan's formerly proposed ancestors into a separate section of my website, starting from the old version of Joan's page onward. You can see a list of those ancestors or a family tree of them.

Key Facts

Snapshot:	fought for England in Flanders and Scotland
Parents:	16812980Hamo de Gatton His mother's identity is uncertain.
Born:	circa 1264 location unknown
Died:	not long before 13 October 1300 location unknown
Buried:	unknown

8406490Hamo de Gatton is the son of 16812980Hamo de Gatton, and was born circa 1264.1 His mother was very likely 16812980Hamo's wife Johanna, although this can't be proven indisputably with the available evidence.

After his father's death in 1292, 8406490Hamo inherited properties at Artington, Catteshall, and Gatton in Surrey, and Throwley in Kent.1

8406490Hamo served England during the 1297 expedition to Flanders, and the 1298 invasion of Scotland.2

He must have died not long before 13 October 1300, since on that date a writ was issued for an inquisition post mortem of his estate. The inquisition shows that 8406490Hamo still owned several of the properties he'd inherited from his father (including all the ones mentioned above).3

Problem: Unresolved Who was 8406490Hamo's wife: Joan, Margery, or both? 8406490Hamo's inquisitions post mortem, dated starting in 1300, mention his son Edmund, who was 6 months old, and his wife Margery.3 Around 1309, Margery is mentioned as 8406490Hamo's widow in several debt records.4-6 Frustratingly, though, a fine dated 10 December 1309 mentions Edmund, minor son and heir of 8406490Hamo, and also mentions Joan, "late wife of the said Hamo." 7 These records certainly seem to refer to the same 8406490Hamo, so why do they show different names for his wife? Perhaps 8406490Hamo first married Joan, who died, and then later married Margery? Or perhaps the "Joan" record is simply erroneous? A Gatton pedigree in Archaeologia Cantiana (volume 5, page 222 insert) shows a Joan as the wife of 8406490Hamo's father (who was also named 16812980Hamo). The pedigree's creator even cites the same 10 December 1309 fine as evidence (He cites it as "Rot. Fin. 3 Ed. II. m. 10."), yet he doesn't explain/justify the mention of a son Edmund. Fortunately, a separate 1271 record affirms that 16812980Hamo's (the father's) wife was indeed named Joan.8 Perhaps there were two Joans: 8406490Hamo's first wife, and his father 16812980Hamo's wife. Edmund and two sisters—4203245Eliz', wife of Willo de Deen; and Margarete, wife of Simoni de Northwode—are mentioned in a 1313 record,9 but this record doesn't help reconcile Joan versus Margery as 8406490Hamo's wife.

Despite being dead, 8406490Hamo was mentioned two years later in a criminal complaint. He (alongside many other people) was accused of stealing corn, driving away sheep, and kidnapping two servants.10

Sources Cited:

1: Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem [...]: Volume 3, Edward I (London, 1912), page 14

2: Francis Palgrave, ed., The Parliamentary Writs and Writs of Military Summons, Volume I (London, 1827), page 628

3: Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem [...]: Volume 3, Edward I (London, 1912), pages 506-507

4: UK National Archives reference C 241/59/19. I have not seen the original record and merely used the abstract at the link provided.

5: UK National Archives reference C 241/69/216. I have not seen the original record and merely used the abstract at the link provided.

6: UK National Archives reference C 241/62/213. I have not seen the original record and merely used the abstract at the link provided.

7: Calendar of the Fine Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office, Volume II: Edward II, A.D. 1307-1319 (London, 1912), page 53

8: UK National Archives reference C 60/68, membrane 4, an entry for Hamo de Gatton and his wife Joan. I downloaded an image of the relevant entry from the Henry III Fine Rolls Project at <https://finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/fimages/C60_68/m04.html> on 18 August 2022. The Project's description of the relevant entry reads, "[No date]. Kent. Hamo of Gatton and Joan his wife give half a mark for having a writ ad terminum. Order to the sheriff of Kent." There's a transcription of the original Latin in: Caroli Roberts, ed., Excerpta è Rotulis Finium in Turri Londinensi Asservatis, Henrico Tertio Rege, A. D. 1216-1272, Volume II, page 547.

9: Placitorum in Domo Capitulari Westmonasteriensi Asservatorum Abbreviatio [...] (1811), page 318, left column, penultimate paragraph

10: Calendar of the Patent Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office: Edward II, A.D. 1301-1307 (London, 1898), page 79