Key Facts

Parents:	134503954John de Cheyne Her mother's identity is unknown.
Born:	unknown
Died:	sometime between 1185 and 1198 location unknown
Buried:	unknown

67251977Alice de Cheyne is the daughter of 134503954John de Cheyne, as explained below.

Problem: Resolved Who is 67251977Alice's father? The evidence that 67251977Alice's father is 134503954John de Cheyne is straightforward and requires just one charter; see the discussion in: Alan Fitz Flaald the First, "The Origin of the Stewarts and Their Chesney Connexion," The Genealogist, New Series Volume 18 (1902), page 9. Nevertheless, identifying her father has been a point of confusion for past researchers. Even Keats-Rohan's outstanding book Domesday Descendants misidentifies 67251977Alice's father and had to be corrected.

67251977Alice's first husband Hugh de Periers was alive in late 17751 but probably died not long thereafter.1,2

By 1180 67251977Alice had married her second husband, 67251976Geoffrey de Say.3,4

She was alive in 11855 but had died by 1198, when 67251976Geoffrey and their son 33625988Geoffrey made a donation to a hospital in Drincourt (now known as Neufchâtel-en-Bray), Normandy in 67251977Alice's memory.6

Sources Cited:

1: R. W. Eyton, Antiquities of Shropshire, Volume III (1861), pages 331-333

2: The Publications of the Pipe Roll Society, Volume XXV (1904), page 55

3: Thomæ Stapleton, ed., Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae sub Regibus Angliae, Volume I (London, 1840), pages cxxiv and 90

4: Monasticon Anglicanum [...], Volume V, page 73, footnote y, deed 1 ("The Deed of Geoffry de Say for the Manor of Dudintun")

5: John Thorpe, ed., Registrum Roffense [...] (London, 1769), page 378. The charter mentions Gilbert, Bishop of Rochester, who took office in 1185.

6: Calendar of Documents Preserved in France, Illustrative of the History of Great Britain and Ireland, Volume 1: A.D. 918-1206, page 95, entry 280