I've been unable to identify 1050811Joan's parents despite extensive research.

Problem: Unresolved Who are 1050811Joan's parents? Previously, I believed that 1050811Joan's parents were 2101622Thomas de Dene and 2101623Martha de Shelving. However, additional evidence shared with me by researcher Pete Andrews suggests that this is not so. The old version of 1050811Joan's page presents the most essential evidence that I had based my incorrect conclusion on, briefly discusses (in a note at the top of the page) the confounding evidence, and (in the same note) has links to guide you to the profile pages that I'd written for 1050811Joan's formerly proposed ancestors.

1050811Joan, her husband 1050810John de Detlyng, and several of their descendants are mentioned in a lawsuit filed by three of their great-granddaughters during an Easter 1440 court.1 The same relationships described in the lawsuit record were later affirmed in the 1574 visitation of Kent.2

1050810John, 1050811Johane, and their daughter 525405Benedicta mentioned together in an Easter 1440 lawsuit record. Full page.1

1050811Joan outlived her husband 1050810John and later re-married: A 1363 fine reveals that her second husband was Henry de Apuldrefeld,3 and 1050811Joan is likewise described as "de Apulderfeld" in a 1412 record.4 The same 1412 record strongly implies that 1050811Joan had died by that time.

1050811Joan and her second husband Henry de Apuldrefeld named in a 1363 fine. Full page.3

Sources Cited:

1: UK National Archives reference ID CP 40/717 (Court of Common Pleas / Plea Rolls / Chief Justice's roll, 18 Hen VI, Easter term), on an apparently unnumbered page pertaining to a lawsuit involving William Sonde et al. vs. John Ruton et al. I obtained an image of this record from: Anglo-American Legal Tradition, O'Quinn Law Library, University of Houston; <http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no717/bCP40no717dorses/IMG_1261.htm>, accessed 29 March 2022. You can see AALT's index entry for this record at <http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40no717/CP40no717Pl.htm> by searching "1262." As you can see, the original record is in Latin, so refer to the abstract in: George Wrottesley, Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls: Collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office, page 371.

2: W. Bruce Bannerman, ed., The Visitations of Kent, Taken in the Years 1530-1 and 1574, Part 2 (Publications of the Harleian Society, volume 75, London, 1924), page 34.

3: UK National Archives reference ID CP 25/1/105/174 no. 1373. I obtained an image of this record from: Anglo-American Legal Tradition, O'Quinn Law Library, University of Houston; <http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/CP25(1)/CP25_1_105_160-175/IMG_0375.htm>, accessed 6 August 2022. As you can see, the original record is in Latin, but an English translation is available.

4: College of Arms, Philipott MS. 26, 27, folio 43b. You can see a partial transcription of the original Latin, or an English translation by Simon Neal. The most important phrases in the document are "Benedictae uxoris ejusdem Stephani Betenham," "Joh'ae de Apulderfeld matris eiusdem Benedicta," and "super divisione maneriorum de Throughly, Bocton Malherbe et Wormesail inter p'fatam Joh'am matrem dictae Benedictae ac Elizabetham et Benedictam sorores ejusdem."